Fraud is so enticing when you see how much some of these guys make.

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Look at this guy, $100m.


That's a crazy amount of money. Even just one thousandth of that can allow you to live for a whole year doing whatever the hell you wanted. You could fuck a hooker from the blade every day. You could eat tasty delicious food every day. Drive around in a fancy car. Get all kinds of health supplements and a personal trainer to get you nice and healthy.

Hmm, why do I keep thinking about such stupid things? Not like I'm ever actually gonna do it. Too much effort. I'm too lazy to even do credit card fraud off the darkweb, much less more elaborate stuff.

Well, the credit card thing is more cause idk how to find a way to buy stolen credit card info or fullz or whatever that isn't a lie. Cause those vendors make money by scamming you and giving you fake or useless stuff lol. I ain't spending my hard-earned $ to sift through several fake ones till I find one that might maybe work. Oh right and I live in a third world country so all this fraud shit is even more useless to think about, would be hard to transfer the money to me anyway. Don't even have amazon in my country lmao.
 
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This is an interesting case to see how it'll play out. From what I've read online and looking at the Wayback Machine archive, the site basically allowed you to spoof calls. This is so insanely simple, there's countless sites out there, I've been on free sites that'll let you call someone from numbers like 911 or any random number you want, though that was some time ago. It's such an absurdly simple idea and easy to implement that I'm surprised people actually paid money to him. I'm also surprised he plead guilty, it would've been a hard case to prove that he had malicious intentions, anyone can spoof phone numbers for pranks. Maybe the laws are different in the UK, sucks for this guy but this isn't even proper fraud in any genuine way. You could look up a 5 minute guide on how to spoof VOIP numbers, make a website (overseas) and you've basically got his concept.

His main problem was, from what I can tell, hosting it in the USA. He was even using cloudflare JFL :feelslol: if I cared about money I'd make an identical site and host the site in a 3rd world country
 
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This is an interesting case to see how it'll play out. From what I've read online and looking at the Wayback Machine archive, the site basically allowed you to spoof calls. This is so insanely simple, there's countless sites out there, I've been on free sites that'll let you call someone from numbers like 911 or any random number you want, though that was some time ago. It's such an absurdly simple idea and easy to implement that I'm surprised people actually paid money to him. I'm also surprised he plead guilty, it would've been a hard case to prove that he had malicious intentions, anyone can spoof phone numbers for pranks. Maybe the laws are different in the UK, sucks for this guy but this isn't even proper fraud in any genuine way. You could look up a 5 minute guide on how to spoof VOIP numbers, make a website (overseas) and you've basically got his concept.

His main problem was, from what I can tell, hosting it in the USA. He was even using cloudflare JFL :feelslol: if I cared about money I'd make an identical site and host the site in a 3rd world country
Ultimately it wasn't worth it for him. I wonder fraud is ever worth it in the long term. Are there happy fraudsters out there, making big bucks and living completely stress free lives?
 
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Are there happy fraudsters out there, making big bucks and living completely stress free lives?
There's millions of politicians around the world and banksters that seem to be doing alright :feelsmhm: plus the really good fraudsters never get caught. The type of people who can dump a websites saved credit cards and use those cards to anonymously buy crypto or transferring the money overseas through a complex system. I knew someone like that and they were high IQ, they killed themselves some time ago so it doesn't matter if I talk about them, they had an IQ of 160, I say they because it was someone intersex. They had both male and female parts. They hacked a BTC exchange and got fucking loaded and was a NEET in Canada, they knew 7 programming languages, having gender dysphoria and being borderline schizophrenic is probably what led to their suicide but that person would never get caught. Even with me, only talking on secured platforms, VPNs on, proxies on, etc and never once besides very general ideas of things, was any personal info leaked.

Real interesting individual. A type of person that'd have a load of neets.me stories told about them if they were around. After I talked about dumpster diving, they made it a goal to subsist off only things from dumpsters. Not because they had to, simply because it was fun. Another thing that individual would do was to get super fit, nothing but sprinting around though, because they watched a video of a nigger stealing from stores in public constantly and thought it was funny how he always got away because he was fast. So this person would wait by McDonald's drivethru and when the cashier was giving someone their food, they'd zoom and grab it and fucking zoom away real fast and post their loot to me. Insane individual for sure, told me once that their grandpa was a schizophrenic trying to build a time machine in the bathtub.

They would've gotten arrested for some other minor stupid shit like that but never the fraud :feelslol::feelslol: I guess they were far from a happy fraudster but made me think most niggers aren't gonna get away with it for long
 
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the site basically allowed you to spoof calls. This is so insanely simple, there's countless sites out there, I've been on free sites that'll let you call someone from numbers like 911 or any random number you want, though that was some time ago. It's such an absurdly simple idea and easy to implement that I'm surprised people actually paid money to him. I'm also surprised he plead guilty, it would've been a hard case to prove that he had malicious intentions, anyone can spoof phone numbers for pranks. Maybe the laws are different in the UK, sucks for this guy but this isn't even proper fraud in any genuine way. You could look up a 5 minute guide on how to spoof VOIP numbers, make a website (overseas) and you've basically got his concept.

His main problem was, from what I can tell, hosting it in the USA. He was even using cloudflare JFL :feelslol: if I cared about money I'd make an identical site and host the site in a 3rd world country
Mein Neger didn't run a mere call spoofing service, he is a cut above your average Nigerian scammer, he created and sold specialised software that could intercept one-time passwords (OTPs) sent by banks :feelsdamn:
The mammoth cyber fraud operation began when police in the Netherlands bugged a website that allowed fraudsters to make anonymous phone calls from spoof numbers, posing as bank employees.
The iSpoof website, which has since been taken down by the FBI, crucially allowed scammers to access one-time passcodes and passwords, detectives said.
One-time codes, often delivered through text messages, have become a standard security measure for most online banks in recent years.
It's precisely this one service that's "crucial" enough for seasoned criminals to pay bitcoin for, because it saves them the trouble of having to social engineer their mark into revealing the OTP. From MalwareBytes blog:
iSpoof was set up during the height of the pandemic in December 2020. Online criminals found out about it from adverts on encrypted channels on Telegram.

For prices ranging from £150 to £5,000 in Bitcoin per month, its 59,000 users could use specialized software to aid them in their fraud campaigns, such as masking their phone numbers so they could make anonymous calls, sending recorded messages, and intercepting one-time passwords. The tool also allowed fraudsters to impersonate an infinite number of trusted entities—government institutions, banks, and retail companies.

As many as 20 people were randomly called every minute, skillfully persuading victims to give the cybercriminals personal details they then used to steal the victims' money. Victims lost an average of $12,000 (£10,000), with one losing $3.63M (£3M).

The BBC said that fraudsters would often claim to be employees of banks, including Barclays, Santander, HSBC, Lloyds, Halifax, First Direct, NatWest, Nationwide, and TBS. Most calls (40 percent) were made in the US, while 35 percent were in the UK. The rest of the percentage was spread across other countries.

So far, international law enforcement has arrested 142 users and administrators of iSpoof from all over the world, including Teejai Fletcher (34), the alleged mastermind, who was earning more than $3M and living a “lavish" lifestyle.

Per the BBC report, Teejay Fletcher is being charged with "making or supplying articles for use in fraud and participating in the activities of an organised crime group." under the Fraud Act 2006 (section 7) https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...aking-or-supplying-articles-for-use-in-fraud/ He should be fine, will probably just get a suspended sentence, so long as the police don't discover he has a pdf of The Anarchist Cookbook on his computer and charge him under the Terrorism Act 2006 like they routinely do to white Britons :feelsok:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-57204842
 
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There's millions of politicians around the world and banksters that seem to be doing alright :feelsmhm: plus the really good fraudsters never get caught. The type of people who can dump a websites saved credit cards and use those cards to anonymously buy crypto or transferring the money overseas through a complex system. I knew someone like that and they were high IQ, they killed themselves some time ago so it doesn't matter if I talk about them, they had an IQ of 160, I say they because it was someone intersex. They had both male and female parts. They hacked a BTC exchange and got fucking loaded and was a NEET in Canada, they knew 7 programming languages, having gender dysphoria and being borderline schizophrenic is probably what led to their suicide but that person would never get caught. Even with me, only talking on secured platforms, VPNs on, proxies on, etc and never once besides very general ideas of things, was any personal info leaked.

Real interesting individual. A type of person that'd have a load of neets.me stories told about them if they were around. After I talked about dumpster diving, they made it a goal to subsist off only things from dumpsters. Not because they had to, simply because it was fun. Another thing that individual would do was to get super fit, nothing but sprinting around though, because they watched a video of a nigger stealing from stores in public constantly and thought it was funny how he always got away because he was fast. So this person would wait by McDonald's drivethru and when the cashier was giving someone their food, they'd zoom and grab it and fucking zoom away real fast and post their loot to me. Insane individual for sure, told me once that their grandpa was a schizophrenic trying to build a time machine in the bathtub.

They would've gotten arrested for some other minor stupid shit like that but never the fraud :feelslol::feelslol: I guess they were far from a happy fraudster but made me think most niggers aren't gonna get away with it for long

Pandasecurity fbi
 
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Mein Neger didn't run a mere call spoofing service, he is a cut above your average Nigerian scammer, he created and sold specialised software that could intercept one-time passwords (OTPs) sent by banks :feelsdamn:

It's precisely this one service that's "crucial" enough for seasoned criminals to pay bitcoin for, because it saves them the trouble of having to social engineer their mark into revealing the OTP. From MalwareBytes blog:


Per the BBC report, Teejay Fletcher is being charged with "making or supplying articles for use in fraud and participating in the activities of an organised crime group." under the Fraud Act 2006 (section 7) https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...aking-or-supplying-articles-for-use-in-fraud/ He should be fine, will probably just get a suspended sentence, so long as the police don't discover he has a pdf of The Anarchist Cookbook on his computer and charge him under the Terrorism Act 2006 like they routinely do to white Britons :feelsok:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-57204842
I thought it was some insanely complicated man in the middle type exploit but it's basically a chat bot asking for the information :feelslol:

Smsbuster


1. Someone tries to login to your account with your info
2. A 2FA code is generated
3. A bot calls you from a bank number asking for a code (that was just sent from before)
4. You input it
5. They have access to your account

I bet it works for a lot of people though
 
anon1822fourthacc

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There's millions of politicians around the world and banksters that seem to be doing alright :feelsmhm: plus the really good fraudsters never get caught. The type of people who can dump a websites saved credit cards and use those cards to anonymously buy crypto or transferring the money overseas through a complex system. I knew someone like that and they were high IQ, they killed themselves some time ago so it doesn't matter if I talk about them, they had an IQ of 160, I say they because it was someone intersex. They had both male and female parts. They hacked a BTC exchange and got fucking loaded and was a NEET in Canada, they knew 7 programming languages, having gender dysphoria and being borderline schizophrenic is probably what led to their suicide but that person would never get caught. Even with me, only talking on secured platforms, VPNs on, proxies on, etc and never once besides very general ideas of things, was any personal info leaked.

Real interesting individual. A type of person that'd have a load of neets.me stories told about them if they were around. After I talked about dumpster diving, they made it a goal to subsist off only things from dumpsters. Not because they had to, simply because it was fun. Another thing that individual would do was to get super fit, nothing but sprinting around though, because they watched a video of a nigger stealing from stores in public constantly and thought it was funny how he always got away because he was fast. So this person would wait by McDonald's drivethru and when the cashier was giving someone their food, they'd zoom and grab it and fucking zoom away real fast and post their loot to me. Insane individual for sure, told me once that their grandpa was a schizophrenic trying to build a time machine in the bathtub.

They would've gotten arrested for some other minor stupid shit like that but never the fraud :feelslol::feelslol: I guess they were far from a happy fraudster but made me think most niggers aren't gonna get away with it for long
Wow, incredible story, thanks for sharing. Sounds like an amazing person, I'm a bit jealous that I don't have that kind of IQ lol. Although, the story is inspiring. Maybe I can sprintmaxx and dumpsterdivemaxx in some first world country. That sounds like a much more fun lifestyle than waging. Add some fraud to the mix so I can pay rent and stuff and it's gucci.

Hmm, there I go with the autistic fantasies again. I'm content living with my parents and making money off ewhoring, why am I fantasizing about frauds? Oh right, I still haven't found my passion, something to fulfill me. So I'm dreaming of random shit.
 
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@Lain do you know any forums or discords or something where fraudsters and other black hats gather? I know about nulled.to, but tbh that's mostly just entry level scams. I need something more serious.
 
anon1822fourthacc

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Mein Neger didn't run a mere call spoofing service, he is a cut above your average Nigerian scammer, he created and sold specialised software that could intercept one-time passwords (OTPs) sent by banks :feelsdamn:

It's precisely this one service that's "crucial" enough for seasoned criminals to pay bitcoin for, because it saves them the trouble of having to social engineer their mark into revealing the OTP. From MalwareBytes blog:


Per the BBC report, Teejay Fletcher is being charged with "making or supplying articles for use in fraud and participating in the activities of an organised crime group." under the Fraud Act 2006 (section 7) https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...aking-or-supplying-articles-for-use-in-fraud/ He should be fine, will probably just get a suspended sentence, so long as the police don't discover he has a pdf of The Anarchist Cookbook on his computer and charge him under the Terrorism Act 2006 like they routinely do to white Britons :feelsok:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-57204842
Wow, you're amazing at doing research, that was a very fun post to read.
 
KARENIN

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Wow, you're amazing at doing research, that was a very fun post to read.
Nah I didn't look into it very closely when writing that post. As Lain pointed out, the the so-called "specialized software" isn't as sophisticated as the articles let on, it doesn't technically intercept OTPs or SMSs sent to the mark's phone, is literally just a chatbot that automates the "social engineer your mark into revealing the OTP" part. The scammer has to use the call spoofer to LARP convincingly as a bank employee/LE officer first, get the mark to reveal their bank account details (name and account ID) on the pretext of conducting some security review/investigation. Then when the scammer attempts to log in with those details and gets the 2FA OTP request, he uses the "2fa SMS Buster bot" to send a robocall impersonating the bank to the mark, asking them to type the OTP in an SMS reply, the bot then forwards that reply to the scammer... I guess ppl fall for the automated voice robocall because it seems more "legitimate" than someone asking for the OTP directly over the phone...lol
 
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anon1822fourthacc

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Nah I didn't look into it that thoroughly when writing the post. As Lain pointed out, the the so-called "specialized software" isn't as sophisticated as the articles let on, it doesn't technically intercept OTPs or SMSs sent to the mark's phone, is literally just a chatbot that automates the "social engineer your mark into revealing the OTP" part. The scammer has to use the call spoofer to LARP convincingly as a bank employee/LE officer first, get the mark to reveal their bank account details (name and account ID) on the pretext of conducting some security review/investigation. Then when the scammer attempts to log in with those details and gets the 2FA OTP request, he uses the "2fa SMS Buster bot" to send a robocall impersonating the bank to the mark, asking them to type the OTP in an SMS reply, the bot then forwards that reply to the scammer... I guess ppl fall for the automated voice robocall because it seems more "legitimate" than someone asking for the OTP directly over the phone...lol
Wow, you are very knowledgeable indeed. Do you participate in any black hat forums or discords?
 
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Wow, you are very knowledgeable indeed. Do you participate in any black hat forums or discords?
Only piracy forums and discords. Russian social media sites are the best for obtaining books, paywalled newspapers/magazines, movies and tv shows that are simply not available anywhere else (i.e., not on the usual pirating sites) as the russian pirates share them so freely. Pajeets are great pirates too, but their specialty is accumulating the question papers and answer sheets for every brand of standardised exam and professional certification/qualification test under the sun. That's why there are so many over-qualified Indian job candidates lol. While chinks just leech the files off the russians and pajeets, and put them behind a paywall on a custom site to rip off other chinks.
 
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@Lain do you know any forums or discords or something where fraudsters and other black hats gather? I know about nulled.to, but tbh that's mostly just entry level scams. I need something more serious.
Dread is probably the best place, all things considering. It's basically reddit but on the deepweb, instead of talking about normie woke shit, they promote drugs and discuss fraud techniques, sometimes people do genuinely share decent techniques but most of the time they want money and could be scammers themselves. But there is a wealth of information there, plenty of ebooks leaked that discuss carding and other types of fraud in depth. You can also win drugs for free using dread, which I've done multiple times. I've "won" shrooms, ecstasy, LSD, ketamine, codeine, etc. Vendors on the deepweb will sometimes do a giveaway post, they'll say something like "post a number 1-100 and whoever gets the number wins" and of course I have like 25 dread accounts so it's more like a 25% chance :feelscute: sometimes also they'll do multiple giveaways per thread. So I've won multiple times from some vendors and had the vendor send drugs to internet friends houses :feelslol:

Discord is a pretty risky platform. The most I've seen is indirect carding / selling cracked accounts / gift card cracking sites. Like there's people that'll sell accounts they cracked from places like McDonald's, Burger King and other goy fast food restaurants and those accounts have cards attached that people use to buy $100+ worth of food from those restaurants.
 
anon1822fourthacc

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Dread is probably the best place, all things considering. It's basically reddit but on the deepweb, instead of talking about normie woke shit, they promote drugs and discuss fraud techniques, sometimes people do genuinely share decent techniques but most of the time they want money and could be scammers themselves. But there is a wealth of information there, plenty of ebooks leaked that discuss carding and other types of fraud in depth. You can also win drugs for free using dread, which I've done multiple times. I've "won" shrooms, ecstasy, LSD, ketamine, codeine, etc. Vendors on the deepweb will sometimes do a giveaway post, they'll say something like "post a number 1-100 and whoever gets the number wins" and of course I have like 25 dread accounts so it's more like a 25% chance :feelscute: sometimes also they'll do multiple giveaways per thread. So I've won multiple times from some vendors and had the vendor send drugs to internet friends houses :feelslol:

Discord is a pretty risky platform. The most I've seen is indirect carding / selling cracked accounts / gift card cracking sites. Like there's people that'll sell accounts they cracked from places like McDonald's, Burger King and other goy fast food restaurants and those accounts have cards attached that people use to buy $100+ worth of food from those restaurants.
Thanks for the answer! I actually tried Dread, but I could only stand the slow loading times of Tor for like 10 minutes before I gave up lol. Every time I play around with Tor I uninstall it within a few hours because of how slow the onion links load. Don't think I've ever seen a site from tor.taxi that isn't slow as shit lmao.
 
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